Indifferent

As I mentioned oh-so-long ago, my first step out of relatively conventional politics was through Ayn Rand and Objectivism. So you might have guessed that I was an atheist or something... yeah I was an atheist before that though...
The question of religion and such hasn't weighed very heavy on my mind in a while. It's just not something I worry about much.

Tonight there was a debate hosted by the atheist/agnostic club and the Christain club about the obvious conflict... Does God Exist?
Not much to say for the debate... but at the end there was a Q&A and ugh this is why atheists just turn me off... I just don't care about any of it... so often there is just such a lack of any understanding or sympathy or compassion oh I don't know that's not always the case but sometimes it just feels like



So one of the questions that is coming up is the question of miracles... now the Christian side brings up some pretty amusing cases:

1. This girl I know she had reaally thick glasses and then at this Christian camp we all prayed and then she suddenly had 20/20 vision and she still does explain that huh?
2. I know this guy who was lactose intolerant and we all prayed for him and suddenly he could drink milk yeah

The atheist/agnostic argument in response was correlation does not imply causation and that's just an argument from ignorance. I am inclined to agree with that position. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

But hm where am I going with this...

So the first question is this old guy, about 60, i.e., not a student... and he has some question for the Christian side about like contradictions in the Bible testing your faith or whatever... yawn
Next person to come up is this crazed woman in her 50's, also obviously not a student... she doesn't have a question... instead she invites the atheists to come to her healing group thing where the atheists will see how miracles are performed and if they go and talk to her surgeon he'll tell them how he didn't perform that bypass he just let God control his hands... oh so awkward
Delicious crazy person and everyone exchanging looks of discomfort
“Okay, ma'am, do you have a question? This time is just for questions” etc.
sighs of relief when she steps away from the mic
and then the first questioner... ugh this is just the essence of this New Atheism... he says some shit like “What how did you get sick why did you need surgery? Was it because of God? Did God make you sick?”
Something stupid just the tone of the actual debate had been this pretty laid back and not hostile, pretty open, “okay we disagree but we'll be civilised and just lay out or differing views for all to see”
So groans all around I didn't hear what the woman said in response to that question... who cares

I dunno, I guess the question of religion is somewhat relevant to anarchism but I'm not going to explore it more here... some other time...
To lay out my views, I think that organised religion presents the same problems as any other hierarchical institution and yeah... well I really don't have much to say about unorganised religion... just like religious beliefs as such... insofar as they don't affect others negatively (not sure how I would apply that to your examples that you are already thinking of) it doesn't really much concern me at all... but yeah...

to be continued at some later date probably

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